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Re: Science vs Religion: Is there a God?
« Reply #125 on: July 08, 2012, 05:14:42 AM »
And this is where I step in.
My views about Religion. Warning, don't read this if you are easily offended or something, it is highly criticizing and it's just me stating what I think, I am not trying to offend anyone.
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Also, I don't believe in "If you're a nonbeliever, you will go to hell" stuff. It does seem discriminating.
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OH GOD, I'M SUCKED INTO THE DEBATE!
Once again, not trying to be disrespectful. However, I believe you misinterpreted some of what I said, and hope this clears things up.

Quoteception.
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Re: Science vs Religion: Is there a God?
« Reply #126 on: July 08, 2012, 05:22:18 AM »
Quoteception.
A confusing one, at that. :\

Religon can go to hell. All its done fer me is make my life stricter.
And this is plain insulting but still understandable.

Still, too much porn can be bad for your health, you know. Even in a scientific point of view. :P
Ever heard of the guy who fapped 41 times and died?
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Re: Science vs Religion: Is there a God?
« Reply #127 on: July 08, 2012, 05:24:21 AM »
Simple. Inside each spoiler, there is a comment, and two spoilers. First spoiler is yours, second spoiler is my response to your spoiler.

Ok, so maybe not THAT simple. But still.

Alright. I might have fixed it.
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Re: Science vs Religion: Is there a God?
« Reply #128 on: July 08, 2012, 05:32:19 AM »
Quoteception.
A confusing one, at that. :\

Religon can go to hell. All its done fer me is make my life stricter.
And this is plain insulting but still understandable.

Still, too much porn can be bad for your health, you know. Even in a scientific point of view. :P
Ever heard of the guy who fapped 41 times and died?
This is a debate so meh :p and nope, is that true?  o.o

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Re: Science vs Religion: Is there a God?
« Reply #129 on: July 08, 2012, 05:36:32 AM »
It is true.

BTW, did you guys know that Allan Kardek's Spiritism supports evolutionism and the big bang theory and whatnot? Only it says that God prompted these to happening.

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Re: Science vs Religion: Is there a God?
« Reply #130 on: July 08, 2012, 06:31:32 AM »
Quoteception.
A confusing one, at that. :\

Religon can go to hell. All its done fer me is make my life stricter.
And this is plain insulting but still understandable.

Still, too much porn can be bad for your health, you know. Even in a scientific point of view. :P
Ever heard of the guy who fapped 41 times and died?
This is a debate so meh :p and nope, is that true?  o.o
Yes, let's talk about the guy who fapped and died. I'd much prefer it that way. :P
It is true.

BTW, did you guys know that Allan Kardek's Spiritism supports evolutionism and the big bang theory and whatnot? Only it says that God prompted these to happening.
Most say, even our teacher who teaches us Catholicism, that Adam and Eve were more or less representations or explanations of what could have happened. It did not happen exactly as it is.

And the Big Bang Theory was created by a priest. Guess which theory of creation I believe in.

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Re: Science vs Religion: Is there a God?
« Reply #131 on: July 08, 2012, 06:56:14 AM »
Bleh, there are too many versions of too many stories in too many religions to take everything literally. Some say Adam and Eve weren't even the first ones.

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Re: Science vs Religion: Is there a God?
« Reply #132 on: July 08, 2012, 07:04:53 AM »
Bleh, there are too many versions of too many stories in too many religions to take everything literally. Some say Adam and Eve weren't even the first ones.
True, true. Some are even just culturally different than the others, but the same at core. And yet they insist that theirs is the right one.

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Re: Science vs Religion: Is there a God?
« Reply #133 on: July 08, 2012, 10:13:51 PM »
Scientists don't work to prove you wrong, they work to show the truth to the ones who didn't get their brain scrambled when they were young.

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Re: Science vs Religion: Is there a God?
« Reply #134 on: July 09, 2012, 09:05:36 AM »
Hey I never get offended in a debate, and I never intend to offend, I hope I haven't offended anyone. I value peoples opinions and if I ever were to be proved wrong, I would happily change my opinion.

My intention was to point out exactly what I believe is wrong with religion, all the inaccuracies in the bible and even if it were true, why I think it's unfair and wrong.

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Re: Science vs Religion: Is there a God?
« Reply #135 on: July 09, 2012, 10:58:30 AM »
Scientists don't work to prove you wrong, they work to show the truth to the ones who didn't get their brain scrambled when they were young.
Scientists indeed don't want to prove you wrong... They try to explain how certain things work logically to try to have a better understanding...

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Re: Science vs Religion: Is there a God?
« Reply #136 on: July 09, 2012, 12:42:15 PM »
My intention was to point out exactly what I believe is wrong with religion, all the inaccuracies in the bible and even if it were true, why I think it's unfair and wrong.
Like I said, it wasn't made to be read as a history book. Think of it as a moral guideline.

To be honest, most have some misconceptions of some of the religion.

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Re: Science vs Religion: Is there a God?
« Reply #137 on: July 09, 2012, 12:55:52 PM »
Like I said, it wasn't made to be read as a history book. Think of it as a moral guideline.

Yup, one of the biggest problems is hardcore believers denying evolution and such when the bible's not meant to be taken as serious history. And yeah, my very first post in this thread was to agree with the morals and values.

Honestly I don't get why religious people condemn good people just because they don't believe in god, they try to frighten them by saying they will go to hell if they don't believe. It's like a reward for doing someones bidding. Would that person be good without the threat of hell hanging over them? Proper "good" people don't need a reward nor want one, they do it because it's the right thing to do, they treat people properly because it's how they like to be treated. Those are good people in my eyes, not the false people fearing hell.

Who knows, maybe that is the real test god gives us, being good of your own accord or doing it because you are scared of hell.
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Re: Science vs Religion: Is there a God?
« Reply #138 on: July 10, 2012, 08:09:59 PM »
I just had another thought. If you're the only believer in your friends and family (my gf is the only regious person I know) then would heaven be heaven without all your loved ones?

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Re: Science vs Religion: Is there a God?
« Reply #139 on: July 10, 2012, 11:55:24 PM »
I just had another thought. If you're the only believer in your friends and family (my gf is the only regious person I know) then would heaven be heaven without all your loved ones?
Dunno. I've never believed in the "You'll go to hell if you don't believe" stuff.

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Re: Science vs Religion: Is there a God?
« Reply #140 on: July 11, 2012, 12:33:15 AM »
In heaven, of course you will still love them, but there will be sooooo much to the point where your mind doesn't even think of them.

Plus, if you are ever even the slightest bit of bored, whatever it is you feel will ease that boredom will be yours

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Re: Science vs Religion: Is there a God?
« Reply #141 on: July 11, 2012, 12:40:22 AM »
Dunno. I've never believed in the "You'll go to hell if you don't believe" stuff.
So.. Why bother spending time on something that isn't going to change anything in the future?

In heaven, of course you will still love them, but there will be sooooo much to the point where your mind doesn't even think of them.

Plus, if you are ever even the slightest bit of bored, whatever it is you feel will ease that boredom will be yours
Who told you that? Or did you just make that up?
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Re: Science vs Religion: Is there a God?
« Reply #142 on: July 11, 2012, 02:21:26 AM »
No, that is in the definition of heaven itself. A place of neverending happiness and joy. A place of no sorrow, grievance, or boredom.

Plus, there will be rivers and rivers of the finest wine, and don't forget [for those of you who love them] the finest boobies

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Re: Science vs Religion: Is there a God?
« Reply #143 on: July 11, 2012, 08:58:00 AM »
there will be sooooo much to the point where your mind doesn't even think of them.
I can't imagine never thinking of my daughter. If she was in Hell endlessly suffering, wouldn't that be all I could think about?

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Re: Science vs Religion: Is there a God?
« Reply #144 on: July 11, 2012, 10:14:53 AM »
well... lets look at it thos way.... this debate.... it will NEVER be won by either party....

How many wars alone are started by this stuff?

i may not beleive in religion but i also respect peoples beleifs for the same reason i respect other people. I ean in the ens you are just the same peole, you just live a differant way no?

*insert le complant*

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Re: Science vs Religion: Is there a God?
« Reply #145 on: July 11, 2012, 11:25:10 AM »
So.. Why bother spending time on something that isn't going to change anything in the future?
What do you mean?

well... lets look at it thos way.... this debate.... it will NEVER be won by either party....
My aim was never to prove or win my point of the debate. I'm just here to point some clarifications about Christianity and Catholicism. And post some other stuff I believe in.
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Re: Science vs Religion: Is there a God?
« Reply #146 on: July 11, 2012, 11:34:12 AM »
My aim was never to prove or win my point of the debate. I'm just here to point some clarifications about Christianity and Catholicism. And post some other stuff I believe in.
This basically. I want to show people why I don't believe and what I think is wrong with religion.
There's no harm in knowing both sides of the story, in fact it's the only way you can make a proper decision imo. Read everything on both sides and then make up your own mind, don't be a sheep.

Are you a catholic Bloodcat? My mrs is a catholic.

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Re: Science vs Religion: Is there a God?
« Reply #147 on: July 11, 2012, 11:36:14 AM »
Pretty much.

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Re: Science vs Religion: Is there a God?
« Reply #148 on: July 11, 2012, 12:41:41 PM »
The fact that there are other beliefs are in one religion... Like groups and such with there own stories without the main church complaining is enough proof for me.

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Re: Science vs Religion: Is there a God?
« Reply #149 on: July 11, 2012, 01:26:57 PM »
The fact that there are other beliefs are in one religion... Like groups and such with there own stories without the main church complaining is enough proof for me.
But don't forget that not all religions have types

 

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