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Re: Science vs Religion: Is there a God?
« Reply #150 on: July 14, 2012, 12:47:54 AM »
I won't keep you from spending your life packing your bags for heaven, I'm just gonna enjoy life how it is now.

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Re: Science vs Religion: Is there a God?
« Reply #151 on: July 14, 2012, 03:45:22 AM »
I won't keep you from spending your life packing your bags for heaven, I'm just gonna enjoy life how it is now.
Assuming I can't do both. :/
Aren't you stereotyping people with religion a bit?

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Re: Science vs Religion: Is there a God?
« Reply #152 on: July 14, 2012, 08:19:30 AM »
My mrs believes but she's no different to me, we do the same stuff everyday together, the only difference is she believes in god and I don't. She enjoys life every bit as much as I do. The good thing about her being religious is that she won't even consider children before we're married, everything has to be done properly and with morals and values. Some people call it old fashioned but when I look on the estate full of single parent teenagers with 3 kids and no manners, I know it's the right way. I'm not saying atheists cannot live that way too, but christian values are much more rare in young non believers nowadays.

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Re: Science vs Religion: Is there a God?
« Reply #153 on: July 14, 2012, 03:27:33 PM »
I won't keep you from spending your life packing your bags for heaven, I'm just gonna enjoy life how it is now.
Assuming I can't do both. :/
Aren't you stereotyping people with religion a bit?
Just saying I'm not worrying about what happens after my death. It may not be big, but that's a weight you would carry all your life.

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Re: Science vs Religion: Is there a God?
« Reply #154 on: July 14, 2012, 03:39:51 PM »
Just saying I'm not worrying about what happens after my death. It may not be big, but that's a weight you would carry all your life.
Not really. Death is pretty far away, so it's not exactly first priority.

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Re: Science vs Religion: Is there a God?
« Reply #155 on: July 14, 2012, 03:45:28 PM »
Not really. Death is pretty far away, so it's not exactly first priority.
Don't jinx it. Death is always nearby.

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Re: Science vs Religion: Is there a God?
« Reply #156 on: July 14, 2012, 03:51:03 PM »
Not really. Death is pretty far away, so it's not exactly first priority.
Don't jinx it. Death is always nearby.
Well... uh... do you want me to be paranoid? Eitherway Anyway, erasure of existence itself isn't very frightening.

Damnit grammar.
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Re: Science vs Religion: Is there a God?
« Reply #157 on: July 14, 2012, 03:55:03 PM »
I'm not afraid of death either, but it would be nice to live as long as possible and be happy.

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Re: Science vs Religion: Is there a God?
« Reply #158 on: August 13, 2012, 07:44:38 PM »
Frankly there is neither evidance to prove that God exist nor evidance that God doesnt exist. This areguement will spiral in a complex speiral of insanity until we wage war against each other

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Re: Science vs Religion: Is there a God?
« Reply #159 on: August 13, 2012, 10:29:00 PM »
Frankly there is neither evidance to prove that God exist nor evidance that God doesnt exist. This areguement will spiral in a complex speiral of insanity until we wage war against each other
I think God has been the subject of many wars already lol

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Re: Science vs Religion: Is there a God?
« Reply #160 on: August 13, 2012, 11:09:47 PM »
The invisible unicorns in the molten core of Mercury have shaped the universe.

Prove me wrong.

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Re: Science vs Religion: Is there a God?
« Reply #161 on: August 14, 2012, 01:12:02 PM »
The invisible unicorns in the molten core of Mercury have shaped the universe.

Prove me wrong.
Frankly, I find no reason to prove it wrong. Since you "believe" in unicorns shaped the universe, let's just leave your way of thinking at that.

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Re: Science vs Religion: Is there a God?
« Reply #162 on: August 14, 2012, 01:27:05 PM »
The invisible unicorns in the molten core of Mercury have shaped the universe.

Prove me wrong.
Frankly, I find no reason to prove it wrong. Since you "believe" in unicorns shaped the universe, let's just leave your way of thinking at that.
Even if you attempted to do so, upon finding nothing in the core of Mercury, you'd likely come across the "Well, the Unicorn must be a Core Jumper, its now inside a different planet. Gosh, our lord Unicorn works in mysterious ways"

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Re: Science vs Religion: Is there a God?
« Reply #163 on: August 14, 2012, 01:54:05 PM »
The invisible unicorns in the molten core of Mercury have shaped the universe.

Prove me wrong.
Frankly, I find no reason to prove it wrong. Since you "believe" in unicorns shaped the universe, let's just leave your way of thinking at that.
Even if you attempted to do so, upon finding nothing in the core of Mercury, you'd likely come across the "Well, the Unicorn must be a Core Jumper, its now inside a different planet. Gosh, our lord Unicorn works in mysterious ways"
But if you try to apply it in a religion, it would be impossible.

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Re: Science vs Religion: Is there a God?
« Reply #164 on: August 14, 2012, 05:02:08 PM »
If you truly believe in god, you will find numerous proofs of his existence. It isn't something we can explain to you

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Re: Science vs Religion: Is there a God?
« Reply #165 on: August 14, 2012, 05:09:05 PM »
The invisible unicorns in the molten core of Mercury have shaped the universe.

Prove me wrong.
Frankly, I find no reason to prove it wrong. Since you "believe" in unicorns shaped the universe, let's just leave your way of thinking at that.
Even if you attempted to do so, upon finding nothing in the core of Mercury, you'd likely come across the "Well, the Unicorn must be a Core Jumper, its now inside a different planet. Gosh, our lord Unicorn works in mysterious ways"
... May I add that one of the instances that this was applied is when a person like Harold Camping did this. Remember May 21, 2011 and October 21, 2011? Yeah, it's impossible to apply this without being humiliated by the general public.

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Re: Science vs Religion: Is there a God?
« Reply #166 on: August 14, 2012, 09:22:13 PM »
How is a religion with 100 believers less real than one with millions?

There are lots who even think only their religion is the true one.

I see way more people being forced to believe than to become atheist. So from my point of view, religion is a prison.

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Re: Science vs Religion: Is there a God?
« Reply #167 on: August 15, 2012, 11:32:34 AM »
How is a religion with 100 believers less real than one with millions?
I didn't actually disprove anything, did I? Like I said, people are free to believe what they want.

There are lots who even think only their religion is the true one.
Well... d'uh. It's their religion.

I see way more people being forced to believe than to become atheist. So from my point of view, religion is a prison.
In the end, it's up to them what to believe in, right? You can't call yourself Christian if you believe in Hinduism. You can't call yourself an atheist if you think that there's some deity out there. Have you ever considered others' point of view? Like, asking them whether or not they're "forced" to a religion? (Quite impossible, really. To force someone in a religion.)


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Re: Science vs Religion: Is there a God?
« Reply #168 on: August 15, 2012, 03:20:25 PM »
To some religion is a prison, but to much more its like a safety cushion, it makes them feel content and secure about the mysteries of whats around them. There is nothing wrong with that, so long as it is not pushed upon others who do not wish it. I mean, if you want to believe in something that makes you feel good, then you should. Feeling good is the main part of life.

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Re: Science vs Religion: Is there a God?
« Reply #169 on: August 15, 2012, 05:21:13 PM »
In the end, it's up to them what to believe in, right? You can't call yourself Christian if you believe in Hinduism. You can't call yourself an atheist if you think that there's some deity out there. Have you ever considered others' point of view? Like, asking them whether or not they're "forced" to a religion? (Quite impossible, really. To force someone in a religion.)
I'm talking about kids forced by their parents to go to church,
families being forced to believe in something because the rest of their community does, otherwise they'd be outcasts.

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Re: Science vs Religion: Is there a God?
« Reply #170 on: August 15, 2012, 05:40:23 PM »
I'm talking about kids forced by their parents to go to church.
Kind of like a kid being forced to learn math. He has no choice, and does he does so. The kid will eventually adapt, depending on how the parents coerce the kid.

I admit, at first, I was a really troublesome kid when I go to church. To not let myself get bored, my mom allows me to play my GBA as long as I keep quiet and keep still. Eventually, I had to adapt to NOT having my GBA on me, and thus I had to listen. And sooner than I knew it, I found myself singing along with the choir. :P

See? Adaption. After all, it's kids we're talking about here. You definitely DON'T give everything s/he wants. You'll only give what's best for him/her. (IMO, yes. Having a religion has advantages. I think it's better than to have, if ever, my kid grows godless and pessimistic.)

families being forced to believe in something because the rest of their community does, otherwise they'd be outcasts.
I RARELY see anything like this. Wouldn't rejecting members of the community that isn't the same with their religion an act of immaturity? Adults are models of maturity, so why in heck's name would they do that? Even in our Catholic-filled village, I never saw a case of discrimination against another religion. Even outside the premises, inside the school, and yes, the public. The only case I ever experienced is when I was grade school. The aggressor and the victim were both my age. Even so, it was only a bad case of bullying, not religious discrimination of any significance.

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Re: Science vs Religion: Is there a God?
« Reply #171 on: August 15, 2012, 05:41:17 PM »
Is belief = truth?
Nope, you can believe in lies..

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Re: Science vs Religion: Is there a God?
« Reply #172 on: August 15, 2012, 05:50:17 PM »
Is belief = truth?
Nope, you can believe in lies..
Jonez, please. There is no proof that religions are lies or truth. Let me elaborate.

Aristotle: Heavy Objects fall faster than light objects?
Galileo: Really? Let me see... Nope, they fall at the same speed. Air resistance is factor of which gives the illusion of the rate of velocity. Sorry Aristotle.


Eistein: Energy cannot be created nor destroyed, it can only be converted.
Me: Really? But then how did is it that we have many, many materials that differ from each other?
Einstein: It could have been that there was a large explosion, causing the separation of mass, and the change of composition!
Me: If there was an explosion, there might have been a reaction. That means, there was a single mass of energy suddenly being acted upon! That means there were, not one, but TWO different masses of energy that exploded, stemming from a reaction! It could have been God!
Einstein: No! Impossible! It was surely-
*I cut myself from here now*


You see?

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Re: Science vs Religion: Is there a God?
« Reply #173 on: August 15, 2012, 05:58:36 PM »
Is belief = truth?
Nope, you can believe in lies..
You may believe God not to exist. Using your logic I can say that that too may not be true.
Contradicted by your own statement.

You cannot prove or disprove religion. So both sides have a chance to be wrong.
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Re: Science vs Religion: Is there a God?
« Reply #174 on: August 15, 2012, 06:02:33 PM »
Am I the only one who find it odd the some atheist blame God for every misfortune that happens?

 

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