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Console & handheld debate
« on: May 06, 2012, 11:29:58 AM »
Let's keep fanboyism at a limit here and discuss about consoles & handhelds.

What are the best kinds of consoles?
Makes more horsepower for a better console?
Do we have consoles or multimedia devices?

Those are just some example questions to start off with. Lets get this debate on the road. With saying the my favorite console is the Wii and my favorite handheld is the DS lite.

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Re: Console & handheld debate
« Reply #1 on: May 06, 2012, 12:36:16 PM »
The best kind is the one that a lot of third-party developers support. 'nuff said.

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Re: Console & handheld debate
« Reply #2 on: May 06, 2012, 12:42:31 PM »
The best kind is the one that a lot of third-party developers support. 'nuff said.
True but we must speak then about quality games... Not shovelware.
Like the DS is overloaded by UbiSoft by "My * fill in a random animal here * pet" games. Kinda breaks the 3rd party support to me.

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Re: Console & handheld debate
« Reply #3 on: May 06, 2012, 12:56:07 PM »
Opposite can be said to the Wii, actually. Despite it's great First-party games, the console is lacking waaaaaaay too much third-party support. I have only a few games because of it.

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Re: Console & handheld debate
« Reply #4 on: May 06, 2012, 12:57:18 PM »
Opposite can be said to the Wii, actually. Despite it's great First-party games, the console is lacking waaaaaaay too much third-party support. I have only a few games because of it.
I agree there. But maybe the 3rd party developers aren't "used" to the new Wii technology or didn't see the potential.

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Re: Console & handheld debate
« Reply #5 on: May 06, 2012, 01:23:34 PM »
Maybe so.

Oh and, is it me or is the WiiU just a bigger version of the DS?

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Re: Console & handheld debate
« Reply #6 on: May 06, 2012, 01:24:57 PM »
Well, it is looking like that. But then we are speaking about the controller.

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Re: Console & handheld debate
« Reply #7 on: May 07, 2012, 12:55:21 AM »
I have to agree with General Catman(about third party devs).

The controllers for the WiiU shares its concept with Dreamcast controllers, but the Wii U seems a bit more.....unwieldy.
« Last Edit: May 07, 2012, 01:06:50 AM by FisTofTHEAXIS » »

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Re: Console & handheld debate
« Reply #8 on: May 26, 2012, 10:25:06 AM »
What are the best kinds of consoles?
It's more of a personal preference. The best kinds, however, are the consoles that give you the most enjoyment with its library of titles to play. The ones you have the most fun with. For one person, that could mean a mindless Call of Duty clone on the Xbox. For another, that could mean yet another Mario game on the Wii.

Makes more horsepower for a better console?
More horsepower doesn't make for a better console, unless you're talking about a multi-platform game that lags more on one console than another. If not, then horsepower doesn't matter as long as you like the library of titles you can play on that console.

Do we have consoles or multimedia devices?
We have both. Some of the consoles now don't support as much as others to be considered a media device, and some support too much to be called simply "consoles". However, the line between the two is very blurry and it's really hard to judge what is what nowadays.

Like the DS is overloaded by UbiSoft by "My * fill in a random animal here * pet" games. Kinda breaks the 3rd party support to me.
If you look past all the shovelware, you can find the real gems. Really, gaming is kind of like surfing the internet. You have to sift through a lot of porn to find safe for work rule 34 Twilight Sparkle.

Oh and, is it me or is the WiiU just a bigger version of the DS?
Nah, it's more like the drawing game they've released that comes with the tablet to draw on.

The WiiU will use the traditional Wii control system, so the giant touch screen controller is probably going to be mostly used for the 'change channel on TV, play game on the touch screen controller' gimmick they claim will be happening.

The controllers for the WiiU shares its concept with Dreamcast controllers, but the Wii U seems a bit more.....unwieldy.
It actually looks like a portable Gamecube I saw once, which wasn't very unwieldly at all.
« Last Edit: May 26, 2012, 10:31:11 AM by CarolineJohnson » »

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Re: Console & handheld debate
« Reply #9 on: May 26, 2012, 10:39:00 AM »
Like the DS is overloaded by UbiSoft by "My * fill in a random animal here * pet" games. Kinda breaks the 3rd party support to me.
If you look past all the shovelware, you can find the real gems. Really, gaming is kind of like surfing the internet. You have to sift through a lot of porn to find safe for work rule 34 Twilight Sparkle.

Exactly! There are indeed so many overlooked games on the DS that I haven't heard of them all.

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Re: Console & handheld debate
« Reply #10 on: May 26, 2012, 10:53:33 AM »
Like the DS is overloaded by UbiSoft by "My * fill in a random animal here * pet" games. Kinda breaks the 3rd party support to me.
If you look past all the shovelware, you can find the real gems. Really, gaming is kind of like surfing the internet. You have to sift through a lot of porn to find safe for work rule 34 Twilight Sparkle.

Exactly! There are indeed so many overlooked games on the DS that I haven't heard of them all.

I can name a few right here.

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« Last Edit: May 26, 2012, 10:55:52 AM by CarolineJohnson » »

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Re: Console & handheld debate
« Reply #11 on: May 26, 2012, 11:34:30 AM »
This isn't a debate. Consoles>dogshit>handhelds.

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Re: Console & handheld debate
« Reply #12 on: May 26, 2012, 03:35:39 PM »
I like Consoles better, just because of their potential to play better games and have better graphics

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Re: Console & handheld debate
« Reply #13 on: May 26, 2012, 03:44:40 PM »
handhelds are only good for one thing, keeping a man entertained whether he is out shopping with his mother or girlfriend, or both. Indoor use of a handheld is tragic.

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Re: Console & handheld debate
« Reply #14 on: May 26, 2012, 03:52:21 PM »
handhelds are only good for one thing, keeping a man entertained whether he is out shopping with his mother or girlfriend, or both. Indoor use of a handheld is tragic.

Why not!? D:

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Re: Console & handheld debate
« Reply #15 on: May 26, 2012, 03:54:51 PM »
handhelds are only good for one thing, keeping a man entertained whether he is out shopping with his mother or girlfriend, or both. Indoor use of a handheld is tragic.

I wouldn't say that. Just that if my brothers aren't playing PS3. There is no way on earth I would play DS or 3DS Or even on my phone instead if the ps3

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Re: Console & handheld debate
« Reply #16 on: May 26, 2012, 03:56:11 PM »
handhelds are only good for one thing, keeping a man entertained whether he is out shopping with his mother or girlfriend, or both. Indoor use of a handheld is tragic.

I wouldn't say that. Just that if my brothers aren't playing PS3. There is no way on earth I would play DS or 3DS Or even on my phone instead if the ps3
Oddly enough, I'd play the DS if I ever ran out of games in the PS3.

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Re: Console & handheld debate
« Reply #17 on: May 26, 2012, 04:23:55 PM »
handhelds are only good for one thing, keeping a man entertained whether he is out shopping with his mother or girlfriend, or both. Indoor use of a handheld is tragic.

Why not!? D:
Because it defeats the portable aspect of the console. Why play a DS or PSP indoors when you can play a Wii or a PS3? Thats essentially what they are, dumbed down versions of their indoor counterparts.

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Re: Console & handheld debate
« Reply #18 on: May 26, 2012, 04:31:38 PM »
handhelds are only good for one thing, keeping a man entertained whether he is out shopping with his mother or girlfriend, or both. Indoor use of a handheld is tragic.

Why not!? D:
Because it defeats the portable aspect of the console. Why play a DS or PSP indoors when you can play a Wii or a PS3? Thats essentially what they are, dumbed down versions of their indoor counterparts.

If they are, then they would have had a dumbed down versions of their respective games. Oddly enough, they don't.

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Re: Console & handheld debate
« Reply #19 on: May 26, 2012, 06:05:27 PM »
This is easy right. Sit at home with a 60" TV, a PS3, a 360 and a Wii, and also have a DS. Now, which gets the most attention........?
The last time I touched a DS was probably when I took it out the box, but to be fair that's also true for my Wii. Horsepower is the way to go.

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Re: Console & handheld debate
« Reply #20 on: May 26, 2012, 06:44:40 PM »
This is easy right. Sit at home with a 60" TV, a PS3, a 360 and a Wii, and also have a DS. Now, which gets the most attention........?
The last time I touched a DS was probably when I took it out the box, but to be fair that's also true for my Wii. Horsepower is the way to go.

As Nintendo fan I disagree there. There are good games for the DS.

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Re: Console & handheld debate
« Reply #21 on: May 26, 2012, 06:49:27 PM »
Oh yes i agree jonez, nintendo make some great games. They just aren't the best games when compared to the best of the rest. If nintendo had the hardware to compete it may well be a different story.
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Re: Console & handheld debate
« Reply #22 on: May 27, 2012, 01:21:55 PM »
This is easy right. Sit at home with a 60" TV, a PS3, a 360 and a Wii, and also have a DS. Now, which gets the most attention........?
Depends on the situation. I'm playing my DS even though the PS3 is right in front of me. I don't have any money for games on the PS3, so yeah.

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Re: Console & handheld debate
« Reply #23 on: May 29, 2012, 05:20:48 AM »
I don't mind the DS, really. I just feel no comparison between a 15lb HD, ability-to-play-better-games PS3 to well, a DS.

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Re: Console & handheld debate
« Reply #24 on: May 30, 2012, 02:23:12 PM »
Oh yes i agree jonez, nintendo make some great games. They just aren't the best games when compared to the best of the rest. If nintendo had the hardware to compete it may well be a different story.

This really makes my skin crawl. Is it about the presentation or the gameplay...?
I rather play a badly designed game with high fun factors then a top notch designed game that is basically sort of playing itself.

 

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