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Re: Science vs Religion: Is there a God?
« Reply #175 on: August 15, 2012, 06:03:21 PM »
Is belief = truth?
Nope, you can believe in lies..
You you may believe God not to exist. Using your logic I can say that that too may not be true.
Contradicted by your own statement.

You cannot prove or disprove religion. So both sides have a chance to be wrong.
You are totally missing my point. It's not because you belief in something that it makes that given thing the truth.

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Re: Science vs Religion: Is there a God?
« Reply #176 on: August 15, 2012, 06:05:09 PM »
You are totally missing my point. It's not because you belief in something that it makes that given thing the truth.
And by that, you are indirectly stating that some religions are actually false?

I mean, I don't know. It's kind of a risky thing to say. You know.... Jihad and the like.
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Re: Science vs Religion: Is there a God?
« Reply #177 on: August 15, 2012, 06:19:06 PM »
Somewhat, I am also saying that there is no real truth about religion. Since we can't prove if a god exists or not... Since sometimes there is science behind it....

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Re: Science vs Religion: Is there a God?
« Reply #178 on: August 15, 2012, 06:26:18 PM »
Somewhat, I am also saying that there is no real truth about religion. Since we can't prove if a god exists or not... Since sometimes there is science behind it....
So you're saying that there's no truth in religion? But you don't have any proof to back it up? But there's science to occasionally prove it?


Wat?

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Re: Science vs Religion: Is there a God?
« Reply #179 on: August 15, 2012, 06:39:42 PM »
Jonez, refer back to my statement. You cannot PROVE or DISPROVE religion. Meaning that there is no evidence to prove that God exists, yet at the exact same time there is no evidence to prove that he does not exist.
If there were, religion wouldn't have so many followers as it does now, the fact that science cannot disprove religion is why its still alive.

With that in mind, how can you possibly say that there is no truth behind it? That sounds like a very direct statement, which requires proof. I rest my case.
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Re: Science vs Religion: Is there a God?
« Reply #181 on: August 15, 2012, 08:31:02 PM »
I'm no longer a part of this "debate".

Proves it once again. It is impossible the truth is true to those who believe in their truth. There is nothing left to convert.

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Re: Science vs Religion: Is there a God?
« Reply #182 on: August 15, 2012, 11:44:20 PM »
I'm no longer a part of this "debate".

Proves it once again. It is impossible the truth is true to those who believe in their truth. There is nothing left to convert.
Just because I say that there isn't any proof doesn't actually mean I believe my religion is false.

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Re: Science vs Religion: Is there a God?
« Reply #183 on: August 15, 2012, 11:50:20 PM »
You wouldn't understand, that's why I quit

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Re: Science vs Religion: Is there a God?
« Reply #184 on: August 15, 2012, 11:51:45 PM »
Eh. Alrighty.

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Re: Science vs Religion: Is there a God?
« Reply #185 on: August 16, 2012, 12:00:54 AM »
Well, I kinda knew when I made this topic that nobody was going to get along lol

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Re: Science vs Religion: Is there a God?
« Reply #186 on: August 16, 2012, 12:03:47 AM »
We've been trolled.  D:

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Re: Science vs Religion: Is there a God?
« Reply #187 on: August 16, 2012, 12:07:32 AM »
Religion is an impossible debate. Nobody can ever win or lose.

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Re: Science vs Religion: Is there a God?
« Reply #188 on: August 16, 2012, 12:11:28 AM »
True, but sometimes debates don't really need a clear end. I like to think a debate is more about how far you are willing to go to get your point across, its good to view how people handle themselves during the debate. Especially in a debate like this, Religion is like a training ground for debaters, or maybe its the final stage lol

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Re: Science vs Religion: Is there a God?
« Reply #189 on: August 16, 2012, 12:12:31 AM »
A debate can't change someone's view on religion at all.

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Re: Science vs Religion: Is there a God?
« Reply #190 on: August 16, 2012, 12:15:02 AM »
Really? I've known people to be converted through someones debate, especially if its a convincing one. Well, I will admit that its never instant conversion, but a strong point can shake the foundations of someones faith, even if its not about religion.

Though, the radicals are more stubborn and less likely to see it from a different view.


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Re: Science vs Religion: Is there a God?
« Reply #191 on: August 16, 2012, 12:17:30 AM »
Really? I've known people to be converted through someones debate, especially if its a convincing one. Well, I will admit that its never instant conversion, but a strong point can shake the foundations of someones faith, even if its not about religion.

Though, the radicals are more stubborn and less likely to see it from a different view.
I don't think people who are unsure of their religion will take part in a debate, they might use it as guidance though.

Even though I'm 100% sure of my beliefs, I'm open to a lot of things, just don't give me shit about right or wrong.

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Re: Science vs Religion: Is there a God?
« Reply #192 on: August 16, 2012, 12:22:43 AM »
Really? I've known people to be converted through someones debate, especially if its a convincing one. Well, I will admit that its never instant conversion, but a strong point can shake the foundations of someones faith, even if its not about religion.

Though, the radicals are more stubborn and less likely to see it from a different view.
I don't think people who are unsure of their religion will take part in a debate, they might use it as guidance though.
Oh believe me, it happens lol
I don't know if its just because people in Liverpool have the average IQ of a tree stump, but I've seen so many people defend God, even when they have been to less than 3 visits to Church and haven't so much as glanced at the bible.
Its almost as if its personally offends them, they become attached to the idea, but yet they don't fully understand what they are talking about, just the outline of it. Sometimes the outline is a little misshapen too.

There are some rather delusional people out there.


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Re: Science vs Religion: Is there a God?
« Reply #193 on: August 16, 2012, 12:55:55 AM »
Just like some people use racism as an excuse for violence.

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Re: Science vs Religion: Is there a God?
« Reply #194 on: August 16, 2012, 01:03:03 AM »
Religion Was Used as a way to understand the World and to Explain what happens after Death

also, Religion was Used as a way to Make People Less Likely to Kill Each Other, for most parts atleast... - That Did not work too well with Christianity. . . .

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Re: Science vs Religion: Is there a God?
« Reply #195 on: August 16, 2012, 01:30:25 AM »
Religion Was Used as a way to understand the World and to Explain what happens after Death

also, Religion was Used as a way to Make People Less Likely to Kill Each Other, for most parts atleast... - That Did not work too well with Christianity. . . .
Christianity? I'd say it's pretty peaceful here compared to Israel and other countries in the Middle-East.

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Re: Science vs Religion: Is there a God?
« Reply #196 on: August 16, 2012, 01:39:26 AM »
Religion Was Used as a way to understand the World and to Explain what happens after Death

also, Religion was Used as a way to Make People Less Likely to Kill Each Other, for most parts atleast... - That Did not work too well with Christianity. . . .
Christianity? I'd say it's pretty peaceful here compared to Israel and other countries in the Middle-East.


Look at the Historical Point of Viewn

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Re: Science vs Religion: Is there a God?
« Reply #197 on: August 16, 2012, 01:42:57 AM »
Somewhat, I am also saying that there is no real truth about religion. Since we can't prove if a god exists or not... Since sometimes there is science behind it....
So you're saying that there's no truth in religion? But you don't have any proof to back it up? But there's science to occasionally prove it?


Wat?
I blew my own mind there too.
Insanity perhaps...?

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Re: Science vs Religion: Is there a God?
« Reply #198 on: August 17, 2012, 12:24:36 AM »
Yes, there is a God! All hail the Flying Spaghetti Monster! R'Amen!

Seriously though, gotta love Pastafarians.

 

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