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Title: Belgium Holiday considered racist!?!
Post by: NekoJonez on October 24, 2013, 05:55:28 PM
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Yeah, silly no?

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Title: Re: Belgium Holiday considered racist!?!
Post by: Cupcake Fury on October 24, 2013, 06:09:44 PM
Huh never knew that was a thing, but yeah thats dumb of them to think its racist :l
Title: Re: Belgium Holiday considered racist!?!
Post by: O:\msg on October 24, 2013, 06:18:18 PM
Welcome to modern society Jonez.
Title: Re: Belgium Holiday considered racist!?!
Post by: Mr.PowPow on October 24, 2013, 06:33:41 PM
Welcome to modern society Jonez.
Pretty much, I remember when the nursery rhyme "Baa Baa Black Sheep" was banned just for having the word black in it. Some even changed it to Baa Baa Rainbow Sheep. Bloody ridiculous.
Title: Re: Belgium Holiday considered racist!?!
Post by: O:\msg on October 24, 2013, 06:36:47 PM
I also heard in schools you couldn't call them blackboards anymore, it had to be chalkboards. God knows what banning the word black is actually going to achieve. Surely promoting black as equal is the way to go, not hiding it.
Title: Re: Belgium Holiday considered racist!?!
Post by: Cupcake Fury on October 24, 2013, 06:59:43 PM
Welcome to modern society Jonez.
Pretty much, I remember when the nursery rhyme "Baa Baa Black Sheep" was banned just for having the word black in it. Some even changed it to Baa Baa Rainbow Sheep. Bloody ridiculous.
Wait seriously?
Title: Re: Belgium Holiday considered racist!?!
Post by: NekoJonez on October 24, 2013, 07:02:45 PM
I also heard in schools you couldn't call them blackboards anymore, it had to be chalkboards. God knows what banning the word black is actually going to achieve. Surely promoting black as equal is the way to go, not hiding it.
The funny thing is that there is an online tool for schools to communicate more easily called BlackBoard.

Yet, as Teacher in training, we are supposed to use more smartboards now. Since, according to research, children get color confused. Due to you writing on a green/black board with white/yellow chalk. Uhu.

Welcome to modern society Jonez.
Retaredness A-HOY!

Welcome to modern society Jonez.
Pretty much, I remember when the nursery rhyme "Baa Baa Black Sheep" was banned just for having the word black in it. Some even changed it to Baa Baa Rainbow Sheep. Bloody ridiculous.
Well, we have in Belgium here something similar with an old children rhyme. In that rhyme there is a line where it says "daddy will hit you." when a child ruins the garden of somebody. Since this is consider violence towards children and illegal.... This rhyme isn't being said anymore.

Huh never knew that was a thing, but yeah thats dumb of them to think its racist :l

We have a lot of petitions to fight against this shit.
Title: Re: Belgium Holiday considered racist!?!
Post by: dark 5FVD on October 24, 2013, 08:17:42 PM
But it is racist. How can you say it isn't?
Title: Re: Belgium Holiday considered racist!?!
Post by: NekoJonez on October 24, 2013, 09:10:40 PM
But it is racist. How can you say it isn't?

Tell me, what exactly is racist?
Title: Re: Belgium Holiday considered racist!?!
Post by: Mr.PowPow on October 24, 2013, 09:21:38 PM
Welcome to modern society Jonez.
Pretty much, I remember when the nursery rhyme "Baa Baa Black Sheep" was banned just for having the word black in it. Some even changed it to Baa Baa Rainbow Sheep. Bloody ridiculous.
Wait seriously?
Yeah, the British public are pretty touchy about this stuff. I can't help but think it has less to do with equality and more to do with fear.
Title: Re: Belgium Holiday considered racist!?!
Post by: NekoJonez on October 24, 2013, 10:13:48 PM
Welcome to modern society Jonez.
Pretty much, I remember when the nursery rhyme "Baa Baa Black Sheep" was banned just for having the word black in it. Some even changed it to Baa Baa Rainbow Sheep. Bloody ridiculous.
Wait seriously?
Yeah, the British public are pretty touchy about this stuff. I can't help but think it has less to do with equality and more to do with fear.
There are so many things banned, it's just silly to think about it.
Title: Re: Belgium Holiday considered racist!?!
Post by: BloodcatNS on October 25, 2013, 02:59:39 AM
But it is racist. How can you say it isn't?

I do hope you're being sarcastic.
Title: Re: Belgium Holiday considered racist!?!
Post by: dark 5FVD on October 25, 2013, 05:34:03 PM
But it is racist. How can you say it isn't?

Tell me, what exactly is racist?

Sinterklaas is racist.
Title: Re: Belgium Holiday considered racist!?!
Post by: senpai_FisT on October 25, 2013, 05:47:15 PM
It isn't like it's meant to represent blackface. It's meant to represent an average joe who gets soot all over him due to the nature of his work.

What's next? Ban soot for being racist?
Title: Re: Belgium Holiday considered racist!?!
Post by: Kiss x Miz on October 25, 2013, 07:56:17 PM
Everything with the word "black" in it is considered racist. Just that statement is racist by itself.

If you want equality, make everything with white, yellow, red, brown in it illegal too.
Title: Re: Belgium Holiday considered racist!?!
Post by: NekoJonez on October 25, 2013, 08:35:12 PM
It isn't like it's meant to represent blackface. It's meant to represent an average joe who gets soot all over him due to the nature of his work.

What's next? Ban soot for being racist?

Everything with the word "black" in it is considered racist. Just that statement is racist by itself.

If you want equality, make everything with white, yellow, red, brown in it illegal too.

+1 for both these comments. These are beautiful comments!
Title: Re: Belgium Holiday considered racist!?!
Post by: dark 5FVD on October 26, 2013, 10:15:13 AM
But it is racist. How can you say it isn't?

I do hope you're being sarcastic.

Btw yes I'm being sarcastic
Title: Re: Belgium Holiday considered racist!?!
Post by: NekoJonez on October 26, 2013, 08:56:28 PM
Maybe more clear signs of sarcasm would help ;)
Title: Re: Belgium Holiday considered racist!?!
Post by: dark 5FVD on October 26, 2013, 10:04:01 PM
You know I did it on purpose didn't you?
Title: Re: Belgium Holiday considered racist!?!
Post by: BloodcatNS on October 29, 2013, 01:25:49 PM
Thinking about it, no one has any sort of right to react on this but the offender and the offended. Really. If dark-skinned people see this as racist, then so be it. No one but THEM should speak up. Anyone else is just jumping the bandwagon. The best Belgium can do is justify why tradition holds that Black Petes should be painted black because Belgium is the one that holds that tradition.
Title: Re: Belgium Holiday considered racist!?!
Post by: NekoJonez on October 29, 2013, 01:32:25 PM
Thinking about it, no one has any sort of right to react on this but the offender and the offended. Really. If dark-skinned people see this as racist, then so be it. No one but THEM should speak up. Anyone else is just jumping the bandwagon. The best Belgium can do is justify why tradition holds that Black Petes should be painted black because Belgium is the one that holds that tradition.
We did, but the UN doesn't want to listen. They say that we aren't allowed to voice ourselves since we will just defend our holiday... At any cost.

Besides, what am I doing right now :P?
Title: Re: Belgium Holiday considered racist!?!
Post by: Kiss x Miz on October 29, 2013, 01:37:38 PM
I've seen black people being painted black just for shits and giggles.
Title: Re: Belgium Holiday considered racist!?!
Post by: BloodcatNS on October 29, 2013, 01:39:30 PM
We did, but the UN doesn't want to listen. They say that we aren't allowed to voice ourselves since we will just defend our holiday... At any cost.
... Wow. They actually said that?
Title: Re: Belgium Holiday considered racist!?!
Post by: Kiss x Miz on October 29, 2013, 01:47:18 PM
Turns out it's all made up by a single volunteer in the UN. The UN doesn't back her statements.
Title: Re: Belgium Holiday considered racist!?!
Post by: BloodcatNS on October 29, 2013, 02:01:13 PM
Turns out it's all made up by a single volunteer in the UN. The UN doesn't back her statements.
This is a bit more believable, at least. Hard to imagine the whole UN actually making a fuss on an old holiday.

However, I'm a still confused on what to actually believe. :|
Can anyone link me on the news?
Title: Re: Belgium Holiday considered racist!?!
Post by: Kiss x Miz on October 29, 2013, 02:04:54 PM
Turns out it's all made up by a single volunteer in the UN. The UN doesn't back her statements.
This is a bit more believable, at least. Hard to imagine the whole UN actually making a fuss on an old holiday.

However, I'm a still confused on what to actually believe. :|
Can anyone link me on the news?
Most news about it is in Dutch though :/

http://www.standaard.be/cnt/dmf20131024_00807130
Title: Re: Belgium Holiday considered racist!?!
Post by: BloodcatNS on October 29, 2013, 02:09:21 PM
Darnit.
Title: Re: Belgium Holiday considered racist!?!
Post by: Kiss x Miz on October 29, 2013, 02:14:21 PM
Darnit.
Heheheheh
Title: Re: Belgium Holiday considered racist!?!
Post by: O:\msg on February 19, 2014, 06:19:41 PM
Hahaha this is so stupid I just have to post it.
http://thedailybale.wordpress.com/2014/02/17/black-pudding-to-be-banned-because-its-racist/
Title: Re: Belgium Holiday considered racist!?!
Post by: PriomBlazer on February 19, 2014, 07:37:19 PM
Hahaha this is so stupid I just have to post it.
http://thedailybale.wordpress.com/2014/02/17/black-pudding-to-be-banned-because-its-racist/
dude the cat on your avatar is black
It's definitely racist.

....so umm want some gum?
Title: Re: Belgium Holiday considered racist!?!
Post by: Kiss x Miz on February 19, 2014, 10:25:18 PM
If black people are offended by the word black, they are racist.. to themselves.

Getting words with black banned and not words with white, yellow, red and whatever is racist in itself as well.
Title: Re: Belgium Holiday considered racist!?!
Post by: senpai_FisT on February 19, 2014, 10:48:02 PM
That's a parody website. Guy's a master troll.
Title: Re: Belgium Holiday considered racist!?!
Post by: Kiss x Miz on February 19, 2014, 11:27:37 PM
That's a parody website. Guy's a master troll.
Shit like that happens though.
Title: Re: Belgium Holiday considered racist!?!
Post by: Joel16 on February 20, 2014, 12:04:11 AM
If black people are offended by the word black, they are racist.. to themselves.

Getting words with black banned and not words with white, yellow, red and whatever is racist in itself as well.
lol niggas these days.
Title: Re: Belgium Holiday considered racist!?!
Post by: CarolineJohnson on February 24, 2014, 07:08:55 AM
The world we live in:

A place where it's completely okay to ban a long-celebrated traditional holiday because there are people depicted that could be construed as racist, but during a different holiday it's okay if someone dresses up and acts like a stereotypical depiction of a race (i.e. someone dressing up and acting like Crazy Horse) just because it's a holiday where you dress in costume and pretend you're someone you're not.

(and believe me, if you do that and say you're not trying to be racist, then it'll be a socially acceptable thing unless someone in your vicinity is offended by it...not that it's any less offensive)
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