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Strong gaming pc's aren't portable. If you feel like playing your games on the bus or something like that... That's a no-go.
Also, if you want to keep up-to-date with the latest games... You have to spend a lot of money to upgrade your device. For consoles, you don't really have to do all that much.
Consoles can provide alternatives of play. I haven't seen a PC game where motion control is required. What I'm saying here is that, WITH THE BASIC keyboard & mouse input, you are extremely limited. As for a controller... You have a range of options.
And my final argument is, the lack and impossibility of quality control. When you have a console or a handheld, you can have quality control. To make sure that the games that are released are actually working. But on the PC, you have people who think they can release games and flood the scene with an overload. From casual to hardcore games. And sometimes extremely shitty games. And the various "Best hits" or "Classics" series... You can't fully believe which ones are actually good and which ones lack a lot of stuff. So, yeah. It's also impossible to do. There are too many things at play, it's like the mobile phone market. You can't follow the amount of releases.
x) Sega has been out of the console market for years now. Their last device was the Dreamcast. I think you are confusing with that Android device.
About the costs. In my eyes, the speed that you need to buy new graphic cards and such for your pc... Well, the cost for that is (way) higher then a console no?
Quote from: NekoJonez on April 29, 2014, 06:21:39 PMAbout the costs. In my eyes, the speed that you need to buy new graphic cards and such for your pc... Well, the cost for that is (way) higher then a console no? I think I've spent around €3000 on my rig in the last decade.
I think it's safe to say that it comes to personal preference.
True, but I have played more titles I enjoyed that weren't on PC. I think it's safe to say that it comes to personal preference. PC might be one of the best platforms to game on BUT it isn't the best or a masterrace.
Quote from: NekoJonez on April 29, 2014, 12:18:36 PMAnd my final argument is, the lack and impossibility of quality control. When you have a console or a handheld, you can have quality control. To make sure that the games that are released are actually working. But on the PC, you have people who think they can release games and flood the scene with an overload. From casual to hardcore games. And sometimes extremely shitty games. And the various "Best hits" or "Classics" series... You can't fully believe which ones are actually good and which ones lack a lot of stuff. So, yeah. It's also impossible to do. There are too many things at play, it's like the mobile phone market. You can't follow the amount of releases. You don't HAVE to play everything, it's called freedom of choice. The things you like or might like will still stand out. Buying before knowing what it's actually about is a pretty stupid move if you ask me.
Not to mention the fact that most console and handheld games (barring current gen and a few last gen consoles/handhelds) can be played on PC, some way or another.
That might be true when it comes to the games, but you have to admit that when it comes to longevity, versatility, and general overall cost, PCs definitively come out on top of consoles and handhelds.
Your preferred platform shouldn't have all the say in what is considered to be "masterrace" because sure, you may have played more titles that you enjoyed that weren't on the PC but that's a matter of what games you like. That's personal preference. But your argument isn't in the games themselves but the actual platform you play it on. The games available are but one argument in the entire idea of a "master race platform." You have to take into consideration the flexibility, the quality, the playability, etc. Some of which we've already touched based on and more or less agree that the PC is more superior in.
Pfft, there's too much peaceful discussion in this thread. Whatever happened to yelling at each other and calling them faggots?
Oh, but I do have an objection. Yes, the PC is superior, most of the times. It's like I said in a different debate defending Nintendo. What are you with a powerful system without games?
Another thing, I think we need to think about the different types of gamers. Isn't a master race platform supposed to appeal to all of the categories? You could make the argument of emulators. But then I easy poke a hole in that argument. What about retro game collectors like myself and eg Rora? We like our games to be played on the actual system.
Quote from: NekoJonez on April 30, 2014, 11:16:02 AMOh, but I do have an objection. Yes, the PC is superior, most of the times. It's like I said in a different debate defending Nintendo. What are you with a powerful system without games? You said in your first post that PC had too many games. Make up your mind.Quote from: NekoJonez on April 30, 2014, 11:16:02 AMAnother thing, I think we need to think about the different types of gamers. Isn't a master race platform supposed to appeal to all of the categories? You could make the argument of emulators. But then I easy poke a hole in that argument. What about retro game collectors like myself and eg Rora? We like our games to be played on the actual system. Preferences and opinions aren't arguments, Jonez.
It's cheaper to PC game, but more fun and hassle-free to console game.PC is like a car, you need one.Console is like a bike, you don't need it, you just have it because it's fun to ride."Hermit" are PC-chodes that tell people on bikes "use a car, it's better" and clearly have no concept of riding for fun vs riding to get from point A to point B.
Quote from: FiST on April 30, 2014, 01:10:20 PMPfft, there's too much peaceful discussion in this thread. Whatever happened to yelling at each other and calling them faggots?wait so you don't know that if you yell and cuss randomly jonezy demon cat will slowly and painfully devour your soul?
Long story short: PC is the masterrace but Jonez doesn't want to acknowledge it as his master. Thus he runs to the distant lands of Nintendo-exclusive Nintendo games.
Quote from: Miz- on April 30, 2014, 05:31:50 PMLong story short: PC is the masterrace but Jonez doesn't want to acknowledge it as his master. Thus he runs to the distant lands of Nintendo-exclusive Nintendo games.Oh you dirty troll. For your information, I have been playing on my PS2 and PSP lately.
Quote from: NekoJonez on April 30, 2014, 08:00:22 PMQuote from: Miz- on April 30, 2014, 05:31:50 PMLong story short: PC is the masterrace but Jonez doesn't want to acknowledge it as his master. Thus he runs to the distant lands of Nintendo-exclusive Nintendo games.Oh you dirty troll. For your information, I have been playing on my PS2 and PSP lately. He tries to joke about it in hopes that you'd understand it more, because obviously you can't handle solid facts.YOU KNOW NOTHING, JONEZ SNOW.